China 'will agree to cut its carbon emissions'
By Michael McCarthy, Environment Editor
Published: 13 November 2007
China, now the world's biggest greenhouse-gas emitter, will eventually agree
to cut its soaring carbon dioxide emissions, one of the country's leading
environmentalists forecast yesterday – but only on the basis of a deal with
the United States and the rest of the developed world.
The Chinese would be very unlikely to set their own unilateral target for
reducing CO2, said Professor C S Kiang, the founding dean of the College of
Environmental Science at the University of Beijing. But they would join in
the next, post-2012 stage of the Kyoto protocol, the international climate
change treaty, and seek to reduce their emissions to a definite figure, as
long as this was part of a global agreement that involved all countries
acting together – including the US – and the transfer to China of modern
energy technology, he said.
However, no agreement was likely at next month's major international meeting
in Bali, Indonesia, of the parties to the protocol, which will seek to
define the way forward in the treaty, said Professor Kiang, who is in London
to give a speech at the Be The Change environmental conference from Thursday
to Saturday. The professor, a former atmospheric scientist in the US, has
close connections to the Chinese leadership, but was talking to The
Independent on a personal basis.
He also said agreement was unlikely to be met with the negotiating forum of
the "G8 plus Five" – the rich countries of the G8 bloc in climate change
talks with the five leading developing nations of China, India, Indonesia,
Brazil and Mexico, a formula instituted by Tony Blair at the G8 summit in
Gleneagles in 2005.
In the G8 plus Five, the developing countries were only observers and there
needed to be a more equitable formula, Professor Kiang said. He is proposing
a high-level summit on climate change between China and India, so that the
developing countries can set up their own powerful negotiating block.
He also suggested no agreement would be possible until after next year's US
election. President George Bush's withdrawal of the US from Kyoto in 2001,
with the abandonment of US climate targets, has been a major stumbling block
to developing countries. "But by 2009-10, we might see light at the end of
the tunnel," Professor Kiang said.
The Chinese have ratified Kyoto, but in the first phase of the treaty they,
like the rest of the developing countries, do not have to make any
commitment to cut their emissions.
Professor Kiang said the Chinese leadership was fully aware of the global
warming threat and the need to combat it, although he did not see this as
being perceived yet by the man in the street.
He said that the Chinese President, Hu Jintao, had spoken at the Communist
Party Conference last month of the need to build an "ecological civilisation",
and pointed out that in the 11th five-year plan, which began last year,
there was a target to improve energy efficiency by 20 per cent – the first
time in modern Chinese history that any consideration about energy had been
considered other than security of supply, or that any such target had been
set. There was also a similar target to cut pollution nationwide by 10 per
cent. But to make major changes was difficult. "China has spent 30 years
concentrating on economic growth, without paying much attention to the
environment," he said. The government did not centrally control all the new
energy infrastructure, and in some ways did not control economic development
itself.
He added: "To have people living in harmony with nature is a very ancient
Chinese value – but it's very different from the class struggle of
communism. So it's not easy when you make such an ideological change. In
China, everything is possible, but nothing is easy. You've got to know
China. They will never ever say no. But their yes – well, that may take some
time."
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