Can nuclear waste be handled safely?
Panel convenes in effort to re-start U.S. nuke industry

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jg_
Embedded Designer
commented on Jan 29, 2010 3:34:26 PM
"Can nuclear waste be handled safely?" is the WRONG question to be asking. It has been 'handled safely' for years. The Nuclear industries elephant in the room is NOT the 'handling of waste', is it the effects of Earthquakes (ask Japan), the effect of operational systems failures (ask USSR, USA, UK), and the effect of storage lifetimes, and the soft target of plants.

A smarter question is : Can they slash the half-life of waste ?
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EFJ
Radiation Safety Officer
commented on Jan 29, 2010 3:56:32 PM
Over 95% of the spent fuel from a light water reactor is composed of uranium isotopes (94% U238 and less than 1% U235) which can be reused in fuel rods. About 1% is plutonium which can also be used for fuel. The most radiotoxic remaining elements are the actinides like americium and curium. These will eventually also undergo fission if placed in a high neutron flux (especially if you use high energy neutrons in a fast neutron spectrum reactor like the IFR). Another inovative reactor developed by Oak Ridge the molten fluoride salt reactor run on a thorium/uranium 233 fuel cycle would produce very small amounts of actinides which could be left in the reactor fuel until they were fissioned. A fairly large liquid fluoride salt thorium fueled reactor would only use approximately one ton of thorium per year.
The vast majority of the fission products produced have a half life of less than ten years. The two predominant remaining isotopes following ten years of decay are Cs137 and Sr90. Each of these have a half life of about 30 years, meaning that they will be gone in about 300 years. There are few really long half life fission products such as Cs135, Tc99 and I129. It is possible that these can also be transmuted in a high neutron flux, but given their low radioactivity, they may also find uses in the future (Tc99 has potential for a number of industrial uses).
Spent nuclear fuel disposal is not a technical problem, it is a political problem.
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Rick Merritt
EETimes reporter
commented on Jan 29, 2010 7:28:05 PM
Dear EFJ: So are you saying there are no longer any significant risks with spent fuel, but the public just needs to be educated about that?

Dear jg: Indeed, it sounds like there are many unsolved problems beyond waste. Anyone else have perspective on these issues?
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jg_
Embedded Designer
commented on Jan 30, 2010 3:50:15 PM
I'd call Nuclear Fuel Disposal BOTH a technical problem, AND a political problem.
The steps EFJ mention, are still ideas, and not commercially deployed. Doing that is a technical problem.
The technical challenge is rather similar to Clean Coal : Finding a way to design/add the systems to remove the "minus by-products" at the site itself, whilst still being viable. Technically very challenging.

Here, Clean Coal may have the edge, as there are already commercial scale plants ramping, whilst Nuclear solutions are years off.
Clean Coal solutions also help address the BIG issue, of what to do with the huge investments in present coal infrastructure, which is still growing rapidly.

By contrast, the 'GW ledger' numbers show Nuclear is now a sunset industry, as the GW added is negative, and it has been left in the dust by Wind, and even Solar PV.

NIF may hold more promise ? I see they just hit a 1MJ milestone on 27 jan.
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jg_
Embedded Designer
commented on Jan 30, 2010 4:05:49 PM
Topical NIF reading:
https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/news_releases/2010/NR-10-01-06.html
key seems to be this :
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aquitaine
Studying
commented on Jan 31, 2010 10:52:33 AM
Nuclear waste handling is not a technical problem, of course it can be handled safely. The problem is politics and fear mongering. I used to believe in Greenpeace, but their distortions and lies about nuclear power really turned me off to them and other like minded environmental groups.
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aquitaine
Studying
commented on Jan 31, 2010 11:01:09 AM
I'll also add that nuclear power is the only realistic way we can beat both global warming and future energy problems. Clean coal isn't nearly up to the task, because it chains us to a 19th century way of getting power. Coal is based on carbon, like any other organic substance. It will never be truely clean.

And what about when we have more of a manned interplanetary presence in the solar system, what will we use for power? To use VASIMIR engines and magnetic shields, you will need some serious power, much more than you can get with solar. Nuclear is the way into the future.
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Rick Merritt
EETimes reporter
commented on Jan 31, 2010 9:12:13 PM
Dear Aquitaine: What's a Vasimir engine?
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aquitaine
Studying
commented on Jan 31, 2010 10:39:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasimir

It's a type of outerspace propulsions system under development. Right now the most powerful one uses about 200 kW, although with future developments it will likely grow. For future spacecraft propsulsion another promising type is nuclear propulsion, but it is only on the drawing boards right now thanks to anti-nuclear fear mongering.
 

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