Anarctic Ice Melt Not Triggered by Global Warming, Has Been Melting at Same Rate for 10,000 Years

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Published: Oct 7, 1999 Author: AP
Posted on 10/07/1999 11:43:51 PDT by commish

West Antarctic may have ice-free future, but global change not to blame
2.07 p.m. ET (1814 GMT) October 7, 1999

 
By Randolph E. Schmid, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The massive West Antarctic ice sheet may be headed for a complete meltdown in a process that a new study indicates was triggered thousands of years ago, not as a result of global warming.

As scientists have been increasingly able to document melting and the discovery of icebergs breaking off from Antarctica in recent years, concerns have risen that human-induced climate change could be damaging the Antarctic ice sheet.

But the future of the West Antarctic ice sheet "may have been predetermined when the grounding line retreat was triggered in early Holocene time,'' about 10,000 years ago, a team of scientists led by Howard Conway of the University of Washington reports in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

The grounding line is the boundary between floating ice and ice thick enough to reach the sea floor, and the scientists found that line has receded about 800 miles since the last ice age, withdrawing at an average of about 400 feet per year for the last 7,600 years.

"It seems like the rate (of melting) that been going since the early Holocene is similar to the rate right now,'' Conway said in a telephone interview. "Collapse appears to be part of an ongoing natural cycle, probably caused by rising sea level initiated by the melting of the Northern Hemisphere ice sheets at the end of the last ice age.''

Continued shrinking of the ice sheet, perhaps even complete disintegration, "could well be inevitable,'' the report concluded.

The ice sheet's disappearance is of concern because of estimates that its complete melting could raise the global sea level by 15 to 20 feet, swamping low-lying coastal communities around the world.

At the current rate of melting, that will take about 7,000 years, the researchers estimate. Conway said the melting annually contributes about 1 millimeter — nearly one-twenty-fifth of an inch — to sea-level rise.

While the study indicates global warming is not causing the melting, climate change remains a problem, Conway said: "Global warming could well speed the process. Our study doesn't address that problem.''

Environmentalists have grown concerned that industrial chemicals added to the atmosphere are trapping heat like a greenhouse, causing the Earth's temperature to increase. There is disagreement, however, about the process and how great a hazard it may pose.

Conway's report is one of three in this issue of Science focusing on the Antarctic ice sheet. In the others:

—Scientists studying satellite-based measurements found a complex system of tributaries feeding major rivers of ice on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. This web of tributaries forms a transition zone between the sluggish inland ice and the swiftly moving ice streams closer to the margins.

—Other researchers, using the ages of volcanic debris that erupted onto the ice sheet, reconstructed the past elevation of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet as it began to melt just after the end of the last ice age. They concluded the sheet was not the source of a massive flow of meltwater into the oceans 10,000 years ago.

West Antarctica is the section of the continent south of the tip of South America. It is covered by an ice sheet that extends about 360,000 square miles — close to the combined areas of Texas and Colorado.

Conway's team calculated the movement of the grounding line using evidence gathered from raised beaches and radar imaging of subsurface ice structures. The timing of start of the melting was determined by carbon-14 dating of samples found on raised beaches.


Another blow to the Gloom and Doom environmentalists. Guess we don't need to abandon New York City just yet UNFORTUNATELY!!!!!

 

The report said:

While the study indicates global warming is not causing the melting, climate change remains a problem, Conway said: "Global warming could well speed the process. Our study doesn't address that problem.''

No matter what scientific evidence refutes the "political wisdom", it will still be the political will that controls the use of resources that address these scientific issues; you don't expect anyone to give up the power they have accrued, now do you?

It is instructive to understand how these ice-sheets formed; as the air and the seas cooled, the free water began to freeze, while the saline-rich deep ocean waters receded and remained unfrozen. This process is similar to the operation of an ordinary ice-cream "freezer"; the reason that ice, when laced with table salt (or rock salt) causes the ice-cream mixture to harden is based on the fact that freezing water gives up its contaminants upon freezing, and by forcing sodium chloride back to the ice, the solution returns to a liquid while its temperature remains close to its frozen state.

By conduction, the heat of the ice-cream mixture is drawn away, thereby "freezing" the ice-cream.

On the Antarctic shelf, the lower levels of water are more saline than those at the surface, so that they remain unfrozen. However, at some point, a reduced temperature will freeze the brine and separate the salt to fall to the bottom, or floor, of the ocean.

Climate changes occur through surface heating and require a lot of time to melt down through the ice.

Ocean floor disturbances, such as erupting magma could alter this process dramatically, yet there seems to be no evidence of this occurring.

For my information on Global Climate Change (or Global-Warming),I rely on http://sepp.org

Dr S. Fred Singer is a very well-recognized environmental expert with no axe to burn.

New Heat on Global Warming
by S. Fred Singer

Comment published in Financial Post (Toronto), August 7, 1999.

"Despite Encironment Canada's dire warnings, atmospheric physicist S. Fred Singer says global warming is still suspect -- and a new study shows a hotter climate could be beneficial."

Environment Canada has the daunting task of persuading Canadian citizens that a warmer climate would hurt them so much that they should pay a lot more for gasoline to discourage its use. It's a tough sell: peddling this story to a population that is largely skeptical that the world faces a climate crisis of catastrophic proportions. It's especially difficult when many academic studies pour cold water on the overheated claims of global warming theorists and political activists.

The prestigious Cambridge University Press has just published the findings of a group of 26 economists, headed by a Yale University resource expert, who studied what would happen to human activities ranging from agriculture to recreation to water use if the earth substantially warmed in the next century. Contrary to media spin, the economic consequences would be on the whole positive, not negative. Agriculture and forests would particularly benefit because of the fertilizing effect of rising atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), a greenhouse gas but also plants' basic food source. GDP would increase substantially in a warmer world, as would personal income and standards of living.

Environment Canada does not report these results in "The Science of Climate Change" -- its latest propaganda offering to the media and the public, recently posted on the department's Web site. Environment Canada describes this posting as short, science-based answers to questions on different aspects of climate change that "can be used for briefing documents, as media lines and within publications and presentations" by government officials. As you might expect, it is a gloomy document that uses facts selectively and puts a negative spin on future events. Worst of all, it is not scientifically accurate. To discount critics, the brochure claims that "the vast majority of scientists studying climate change agree," but leaves unsaid the distinct possibility that these scientists are government-funded and that governments have a point of view that has little to do with science. Governments are unlikely to fund researchers who are not already concerned about global warming. Most scientific skeptics do not depend on government funding. They either have tenure at universities or income from pensions or other independent sources.

Environment Canada also dismisses climate change critics as a "small number of dissenting scientists primarily located in the United States." Certainly, the 17,000-plus (most with advanced academic degrees), who last year signed the Oregon petition against the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, cannot be dismissed as a "small number of dissenting scientists." Scientific dissent does exist and on at least two levels. First, whether human actions are causing a significant warming. Second, whether there is any warming trend at all.

The climate is always changing, just like the weather. Last year may have been the hottest year on record, but one year doesn't make a trend. People sometimes ask me if it's getting hotter or colder. The only correct answer is "yes." It all depends on the choice of time period. The climate warms from January to July and cools from July to December, and we understand why that is. But what about climate variations from year to year, from decade to decade, century to century?

To answer this question, we have to look at historic climate records. Since the end of the last ice age, about 11,000 years ago, glaciers covering Canada and the northern United States have retreated, leaving behind the Great Lakes. But the climate has not been steady since then. Even before written records and thermometers, information in ocean and lake sediments, in Greenland and Antarctic ice cores and from the width of tree rings indicate large temperature changes. Scientists studying these "proxy" data have established the following picture: About 6,000 years ago, the earth was much warmer than today, and about 1,000 years ago, there was another warm period during which Vikings settled and grew crops in Greenland and may even have explored the coast of Labrador. This benign period was followed by the severe "Little Ice Age," which lasted off and on until about 1850. Then, both proxy and scientific instruments indicate a significant increase in temperature, particularly between 1900 and 1940. The data show that the recovery was a global event, likely due to natural causes.

Since World War II, growing populations and increasing industrial activity put billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, mainly from the burning of fossil fuels. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, yet the climate cooled significantly between 1940 and 1975. The earth had another sudden warming between 1975 and 1980, but from then on, the story becomes complicated. Surface thermometers show a continued small warming up to the present, while satellites, as well as balloon-borne radiosondes, do not. A good hypothesis is that local warming in urban areas has contaminated surface data, affecting many weather stations but not the globe as a whole.

Recently, direct temperature measurements (with thermometers) on an ice ore from Greenland have confirmed this picture. Writing in the renowned Journal Science, researchers state explicitly that the "temperature cools between 1940 and 1995." This clearly contradicts the results of climate models, which all predict that the warming at high latitudes should greatly exceed the global average.

Returning to the question of climate variations, we can now avoid much confusion. When Environment Canada tells us that the climate warmed in the last 100 years, we can reply, "Yes, but it did not warm in the last 50 years and may have even cooled in the last 20 years." When it tells us that this century is the warmest in the last 600 years, we can reply, "Yes, but not in the last 1,200 years."

What about the human influence on climate change? Urban heat has assuredly affected local temperatures. But has a nearly 50% increase in the overall greenhouse-gas level since about 1850 caused a global warming? It's certainly plausible and expected from theory, but, so far, natural climate variability appears to dominate over any human effect.

Distinguishing between natural and human-related causes is a very subtle problem. Many experts are looking for "fingerprints" of human influence. And indeed, they've found some faint ones: Northern winters have become a little warmer, as have cold nights. But contrary to what many believe, hurricanes are diminishing, both in strength and in frequency. And, best of all, a recent analysis shows that the ongoing sea-level rise slows during warmer periods. The reason: Increased evaporation transfers water from the oceans to the ice caps in the form of snow. This would be an important fact to add to Environment Canada's fact sheet on the "Science of Climate Change."

Climate scientists are still unsure why the increase in atmospheric CO2 has not produced the substantial global warming predicted by theory. It may be that solar variability accounts for most of the observed climate fluctuations. Or, perhaps, warming of the oceans increases evaporation and cloudiness, which reduces the amount of sunlight reaching the surface and counteracts the warming. Although Environment Canada may disagree, the computer models and climate predictions it bases its theories on remain unproven. It would be wise, therefore, to postpone drastic policies until the scientific picture becomes much clearer.

[S. Fred Singer, PhD, is an atmospheric physicist, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia and the president of the Fairfax-based Science & Environmental Policy Project, a non-profit policy institute.]

 

Global climate is said to be warming because of sun, not man

LONDON, (Reuter) - The world's climate is being heated up by the sun, not by the actions of mankind, according to a book published this month.

The book, "The Manic Sun", by scientific journalist Nigel Calder, says the "greenhouse" theory which reckons that increases in world temperatures result from excessive burning of fossil fuels is wrong, and has been sustained by science corrupted by pressure from politicians.

Any climate warming has occurred because of the influence of the sun, responsible for fluctuations in temperature and weather for centuries. Calder says British scientists in general and Britain's Meteorological Office in particular have misled the public.

The Meteorogical Office said it stuck by its methods, which date back more than 100 years, and denied what its spokesman called another paranoid attack on scientists' honesty.

Scientists working for the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) also come under attack from Calder.

IPCC scientists have backed the theory that the climate was warming up because of carbon dioxide (CO2) build-up from the burning of fossil fuels.

The IPCC's most recent report in 1996 said that the hand of man was now discernible in climate change.

Developed nations promised at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro to cut carbon dioxide to 1990 levels by 2000. Carbon dioxide is said to trap the sun's heat, raising the earth's temperature.

Environmentalists say the increased temperature will cause havoc with the climate. Melting polar ice would raise sea levels and submerge low-lying areas and wipe out some island nations.

Traditional agriculture would be decimated by intolerable temperatures. Severe storm frequency would increase inexorably.

At a recent conference in Brussels the World Energy Council, a private organisation which says it seeks balance in energy issues, said the Rio targets would not be achieved. It said they should be delayed to permit more realistic goals to be set.

"We can state with some confidence that the industrialised countries' CO2 emissions are currently over five percent above 1990 levels, and in aggregate are likely to be over eight percent up on 1990 levels in the year 2000," WEC deputy secretary-general Michael Jefferson told the conference.

Nevertheless the momentum behind the Rio Summit powers on. Next month in New York, world leaders including U.S. President Bill Clinton will assess the progress made in the five years since Rio.

In December, IPCC delegates will gather in the Japanese city of Kyoto when some countries will seek mandatory CO2 emission targets.

Industrial groups and trade unions in the United States are beginning to agitate against such action.

They say that if industrial nations agree to one-sided cutbacks in CO2 emissions, this will cut industrial output, and effectively transfer wealth and jobs to emerging nations which do not have to meet such targets, at least in the short term.

If the sun theory gained ground, the insistence by environmentalists that fossil fuel burning must be cut back would be hard to maintain.

Calder said that recent discoveries by Danish scientists show that the world's climate has fluctuated over the centuries because of the influence of the sun.

"I firmly believe that the whole effect of the global warming till now is due to the sun," he quotes Danish Meteorological Institute's Eigil Friis-Christensen as saying.

Friis-Christensen says the climate is crucially influenced by cosmic and solar rays impacting on the earth's magnetic field. Cosmic rays vary with the solar cycle and interact with the solar wind which has a direct impact on the world's cloud formation and therefore on the climate.

Friis-Christensen's research used ice cores drilled in Greenland to trace back climate change for some 3,800 years.

Calder said that the credibility of IPCC predictions has already been undermined by errors and omissions, causing it to cut back on some of its theories.